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Post by Bubba South on Sept 4, 2009 15:52:41 GMT -6
howdy y'all- Well, I done figured that ICW has gone belly up or some such, but looks like some folk read the writings that occur. I was watchin that Oregon and Boise State game last evenin and if live you under a rock, or dont git to watch tv for some reason, check this video out
Now, where Im from, this aint acceptable. He done be charged w/ assault and battery, assaulting a police officer, and inciting a riot. At least. Now Hank, this was a football game! Its a contact a sport! Bull-spit. Maybe in New York or the ghetto this is normal behavior for certain" people", but it aint! This was POST game, so it should be assault. I done read that Oregon suspended this thug for the entire year. Good. He should be kicked out of school, and thrown in jail w/ the rest of the thugs and hoodlums. I dont reckon folk remember Lawrence " Doin 10 years in the Jail" Phillips or Maurice " I done got me a gun and some liquor" Clarett, or Rae " Im gonna git some fool to blast my pregnant g/f" Carruth, but this thug is just like them.
With all this talk of " CHANGE", i dont see NONE. more of the same. u know the saying... u can take the... "person" out of the hood, but u cant take the hood out of the "person". want proof? watch this classless act on that there video ppl. Aint no change. Instead of folk gitting new cars off my tax dollars, id pay ot put these thgs in jail instead. But i reckon that sum folk disagree. change eh? Same ol Same ol.
I hope he enjoys his year off. Maybe he can watch his role model Mike Vick in the NFL, or join a Donte Stallworth fan club in his spare time.
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Post by Calvin Constantine on Sept 5, 2009 0:03:56 GMT -6
Blount isn't from the "ghetto" or the "hood". He was born in Madison, Florida, a town with about 3,000 people. Madison County as a whole is quite rural. He attended high school in Perry, Florida, a town in Taylor County, which is also a place where you can drive a long way and not see a person. This behavior, by the way isn't acceptable in Madison, Florida, New York, New York, Nashville, Tennessee, wherever.
What would incarcerating this person for one year accomplish? I would expect most American males have punched someone at one time or another. Should they all be locked up?
My experience is that you find idiots and scumbags everywhere you go, not just "the ghetto". Or, in this case, the deep South.
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Post by Bubba South on Sept 6, 2009 15:29:44 GMT -6
Now, you say that most American males have punched somebody. I agree, Mr. Calvin. Do most American Males sucker punch another man, who is half restrained and has his head turned? Do most males try to go after fans and have ot be restrained by coaches? I think not. A fair fight is one thing, sucker punches and acting like a bafoon is another. I reckon that locking up this " upstanding citizen" wouldnt do nething other then prevent him from assaulting anotehr man, bcuz he is having a bad day. I find peace in the fact his career is over, and that Oregon has the balls to actually suspend him for the entire year. What does the deep south have to do w/ nehting by the way, Sir? Bcuz we ( meaning myself, and dozens of otehr folk round these parts), find what this "gentleman" did, reprehensible? Should Maurice Clarette been spared too? Vick? CARRUTH? Burress? Phillips? When do ppl have to accept their actions, and the consequcnces , and society stop looking to let these degenrates run free bcuz " most american males act this way". I mean, a drunken and stoned dontae stallworth RAN OVER a man, and served 24 days in jail. KILLED HIM, and served less then a month. thats hog wash. A bar room fight thats one on one, legit between two men is one thing, sucker punches on nat'l tv aint, sorry bout that Sir.
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Post by Calvin Constantine on Sept 6, 2009 17:58:18 GMT -6
I only mentioned the fact that he was from the South because it sounded like you thought he was from New York.
I think Mr. Blount should probably attend some kind of counseling. I don't know what good it will do to put him in jail for a year.
I don't see what Blount, Clarette, Vick, Carruth, Burress, and Phillips have in common, other than being African American athletes who committed some kind of crime. None of those guys are princes, but lumping them together is silly. Rae Carruth is a cold blooded killer. LaGarrete Blount is a hot tempered idiot.
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Post by LB! on Sept 7, 2009 5:10:44 GMT -6
Did this thread get lost from stormfront or some shit? Who the fuck types "People" in quotation marks? How am I supposed to interpret this beside racist trash?
Are you playing a character right now or are you actually an ignorant piece of shit?
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Post by Bubba South on Sept 7, 2009 11:19:21 GMT -6
Mr. Bolt- i put "people" in quotation marks, bcuz i don't consider ANYBODY who does those kind of things a person, more like some kind of wild animal, who doesn't know right from wrong, and can't control themselves.
This is whats wrong w/ society- accept a a "man" ( yes Mr bolt- i don't consider him one, sorry) who sucker punches somebody who is half restrained and has his head turned, but lash out and the folk who have a problem w/ that persons actions. shameful!
Mr Calvin- Nah, i didn't think he was from NY. He transfered from some JC in Mississippi if i ain't mistaken.
Counseling? If you walked into work today, and sucker punched a fellow co worker, would u be brought up on charges and fired, or allowed to keep your job and just attend counseling? Think about that.
Somehow, i seem to of forgotten the class act that is ADAM PACMAN JONES, he of the near dozen arrests, and strip club shooting that left a man paralyzed. HA! The cfl wont even take his thug ass! MR Bolt, is Pacman a gentleman and normal person, or a thug? Like back in the day... you make the call Sir (s)!
I think its time we condemn the people who do these heinous acts ( murder, dog fighting, strip club shootings, assaulting your gfs, carrying loaded fire arms into public places,) and STOP looking to make issue w/ the folk who find fault w/ them.
And in breaking news: Shawne Merrieman arrested for choking out Tia Tequila Saturday night. And the beat goes on.
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Post by Calvin Constantine on Sept 7, 2009 18:34:54 GMT -6
I feel like we are arguing several different things here.
I don't condone Blount's action in any way. I just question why he should go to jail for a year, like you suggested.
Yes, I do think that criminals are people.
I agree that people must be held accountable for their actions. We probably disagree on what constitutes an appropriate means of holding them accountable.
The biggest problem is that athletes are never held accountable for small transgressions their entire lives. Ergo, they never learn what is approrpiate.
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Post by Sylver Morrigan on Sept 7, 2009 19:33:43 GMT -6
Maybe in New York or the ghetto this is normal behavior for certain" people", but it aint! .... With all this talk of " CHANGE", i dont see NONE. more of the same. u know the saying... u can take the... "person" out of the hood, but u cant take the hood out of the "person". want proof? watch this classless act on that there video ppl. i chose two specific passages out of the original post to illustrate a point without all the video and other words that were in the op. the first statement obviously implies that you think this is common or normal behavior in the ghetto, so you either think jews or blacks act like this regularly. by putting the word people in quotes, you are obviously stating that you don't feel that blount, or other ghetto inhabitants, are actual people. then you talk about 'change', an obvious reference to president obama's campaign cry, and the ever so popular saying about taking 'people' out of the hood is obviously a reference to a popular saying 'you can take the nigga out the hood, but not the hood out the nigga'. i sure hope that you're writing in character now, because there is no other way to interpret your words other than racist shit. which is terribly sad, if it is that way. i cannot imaging how you'd expect any of us to interpret it any other way than some sort of hateful writing.
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Post by Bubba South on Sept 8, 2009 15:14:16 GMT -6
Mr Calvin- Im nto sure an entire year in prison would work. SOME time would. I mean, really? Folk can just up and sucker punch nebody they want on nat'l tv and the only reprocussion is they aint allowed to play football nemore? Goes back to what u said Sir about how they aint never punished for what they do.
I guess all criminals technically are people. But im sorry hoss, i dont consider myself ( ot you for that matter), the same pall parks person as LaGarrette Blounte, or say Pacman Jones. Normal people have empathy for others, can control their emotions, and have SOME sense of right and wrong. Thugs like the folk ive mentioned seem to not have ne of the above, so i dont classify them as normal people, more like neanderthaul logic, if u follow my drift Sir? As for accountability, again, i aint sure jsut not being allowed to play football is anough. Hell, he can still practice w/ the team, and didnt lose his scholarship. I wonder if u walked into work tommarow and sucker punched a co worker if all id get is a verbal counseling. Something tells me not.
Well look who decided to join the party! Ms. Morrigan, did u even see the video? If so, you jsut ignored what he did and attacked what i said that was against his behavior, and those of the folk i mentioned? Or did u just jump into the pool, w/o seeing if it had water in it first? I never said a word about Jews, blacks ( african americans, w/e the most pc term of the week is). I named ppl. Where do u reckon Pacman Jones and Mike Vick found all their high class friends to take part in their behaviors Ma'am? A nice suburban white collar gated community? Im not saying no crime occurs in them, but i aint afraid to leave my pick em up truck unlocked either. Think i could park a mercedes in say, harlem, or some projects, leave it for several hours, and the tires and stereo be there? Im not saying everybody for goodness sakes lady...jsut certain areas that kinda behavior and lifestyle are tolerated, taught, and are a way of life for some people. As for your saying ma'am, u said it not me. Read the above names, and tell me . NOT EVERYONE may fall into this, but for some ( Jones, Carruth, Phillips, Clarrete, CHRIS HENRY,Tank Johnson, Quincy Carter, Terrence Kiel, Vick and his Bad news kennels homies, etc), the branch doesnt fall far from the tree, it would seem.
So what about "CHANGE"? I see none in their behavior. Rather a waste of comment there, ma'am. So in conclusion- watch the vid , be informed b4 attacking what i said. Read about the other cases ive mentioned. And if u you dont have time , ma'am, then dont come back complaining im racist, when all ive mentioned is fact, each and every detail. I'm fairly certain Mr Calvin will agree that i aint made up nothin about these fine, upstanding, well educated, pillars of the community.
Hey- nebody seen Marcus Vick lately?
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Post by Sylver Morrigan on Sept 8, 2009 17:57:59 GMT -6
firstly, no i didn't watch the video you linked. but i didn't need to since i saw the acts in question numerous times while watching sportscenter.
i know damn well what he did, he was taunted by a boise player, decided to deck the guy, went after one of his own teammates, and would have probably gotten into an altercation with some fans if he had not been forcibly restrained by security.
i wasn't specifically commenting on anything in the video, merely what you said about it. i stand behind what i said, and i still feel what you've written is racist shit.
i love how people come on the boards to stir up shit, and then try to make some of us look like assholes or bitches when we actually state an opinion. fucking trolls.
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Post by Bubba South on Sept 8, 2009 19:01:25 GMT -6
Actually, ma'am, he had talked tons of sh*t all week, how Oregon was gonna win, and how htey owed Boise State an a$$ whipping. He then proceeded to go out and have a -8 yard on 5 carry day w/ a safety. The Boise state guy was merely throwing it back in his face something to the effect of " So how was that for an ass kicking?", bcuz hed talked so muc hcrap all week long.
I am not racist, lady. Aint said nothing racist, just list facts about what folk have done. If facts make u uncomfortable, thats your problem. Ive yet ot make nething up, call nebody ne derogatory names,, , etc. All fact, and truth. Next thing u tell me, is that Ron Artest, Stephen jackson ( the basketball thug, not the Steven Jackson who is a hoss in football), and Latrell Sprewell are all nice, upstanding, gentle fellows. Get over yourself, ms. morrigan. Artest attacks fans in the crowd, s-jack shoots guns in the air outside the club, and latrell sprewell choked his coach for asking him to hustle ( or put osme mustard on it, something like that).
If i talked about Todd Marinovich and Steve Howe, and Mark Mcgwire and Roger Clemons, would u feel better? I havent touched on Barry Bonds and Sammy Sosa, Palmerio, A- fraud, Manny , Ortiz, etc, etc, etc, bcuz steroids and weed arent the same as Strip club shootings and sucker punches and funding dog fighting. Hell, i didnt even mention Shawne Merrieman ( proven steroid abuser), until he decided it was the thing ot do to choke out his gf over the weekend.
All in all I'M NOT RACIST[/b]. But, if u feel better thinking so, and u can HONESTLY look over everyting i said, and tell me im lying, making it up, fabricating the facts, i will willingingly take back w/e state ment i made. If u cannot, and all u can do is read the facts and say " He doesnt approve of this, and how its condoned by society. He must be a racist for pointing these facts out", then shame on you. I'll send u a Ron Mexico jersey, and u can wear that proudly.
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Post by Sylver Morrigan on Sept 8, 2009 20:27:33 GMT -6
i'm not the only person who made a comment that they thought your musings were a bit racist, yet i'm the one that gets singled out.
how the fuck else am i supposed to take any of this? you only mention black athletes in your original post, you use what is an obviously stereotypical saying about taking the 'person' out of the hood, but not taking the hood out of the 'person'...
seriously, if you can't see how some of us might see that as racist, then i'm sorry.
i'd also like to point out that the second i joined a discussion about football, you automatically started mentioning baseball players like roger clemens, who as far as i know has never attacked another player or fan... so i have no fucking clue why you'd bring that up.
but some of us may have theories.
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Post by Bubba South on Sept 9, 2009 15:26:30 GMT -6
ms morrigan i only mentioned Clemens and other baseball players biz i couldn't think of a white football player who was a criminal off the top of my head. I really cant remember the last time tom Brady went and suck punched Peyton manning bcuz he threw an INT. HOWEVER i do remember Bill Romanowski ( white), punching his teammate who was black in the face and ending his career a few years ago. I didn't mention that i guess, bcuz Room( not tony folks....) is a admitted steroid user, and hes also an out of control animal. He had to pay like 350k though to the guy he punched, so he got more then a slap on the wrist........
I noticed you did not dispute a single one of the things i had claimed about these "fine , poor misunderstood, nice young men". I stand by what i said.... u prove me wrong about ANY of the thugs i named, i will retract my comment, and apologize. but if all u got is to call me racist bcuz i unlike the rest of the sheep in the herd, i don't accept, condone, or tolerate thug like Neanderthal activities, and it sickens me that very little gets done about it, then thats sad. If i was racist, id make things up, exaggerate, and out right lie about people, to make them seem worse. Lucky for me, they're stupid enough w/o me having to do any of that.
And the game ender: heres Terelle Pryor after barely beating NAVY. I have copied and pasted his well thought out and educated sounding speech, and since I'm "so racist", and folk will think I'm making it up, or paraphrasing, and that "ppl in the hood don't think like thugs", ive included the video. Make sure you notice how well spoken he is!!! Game over!
"I just feel that, uh, I mean he made his mistake, and, uh, I think he just needs more support. I mean, uh, not everybody's the perfect person in the world. I mean everyone does kills people, murder people, and all types, steals from you, steals from me, whatever. I mean, I just feel that people need to give him a chance. I mean I always looked to Mike Vick and I always will, 'cause I still think he's one the best quarterbacks to me and I just love, I love Mike Vick and I look up to him a lot."
So there you have it. He believes EVERYBODY kills ppl, murders ppl, steals, and his ROLE MODEL is a felon who just got out of prison and funded dog fighting. You stay classy, Terelle and remind me to never visit w/e hood you're from!
class......dismissed! To arms in Dixie ;D ;D ;D ;D!!!!
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Post by Sylver Morrigan on Sept 9, 2009 18:10:15 GMT -6
i wasn't arguing/debating/whatever anymore. i stated my case, my beliefs, and my interpretation of what your original post was.
have a wonderful day, and may goddess bless you.
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Post by Bubba South on Sept 9, 2009 19:29:01 GMT -6
Well, thank you for that ms morrigan. Please do know that i aint racist, just am greatly sick and tired of thuggary and bad deeds, by all, no matter who does them. If u still believe i am some raving hating skin head racist, u have misunderstood that i am more hateful of socitety being so forgiving and easy on folk who do crimes, rather then doling oput proper punishment. And if u read all the abopve cases ma'am, i hope u can see, not once did i ever mislead, lie, or make nething up. its al there, and all true. it, in fact, is very sad that it is. just think how much safer the world would be if the folk who did htrese crimes were lokced away ( i believe except for Burress, Carruth, Clarette, and Phillips, all the above mentioned cons and criminals are roaming hte streets this very second). THats scary, and sad. Think about that, as well, and see if iam still such a racist, eh? you have a pleasant evenin' ma'am
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